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:PC Week: PC Week Labs' tests show what path Linux must take
PC Week: PC Week Labs' tests show what path Linux must take
Jun 25, 1999, 15 :41 UTC (81 Talkback[s]) (10078 reads)

(Other stories by Henry Baltazar and P)

Thanks to Johan for this link.

"In a first-of-its-kind open benchmark comparing the performance of Linux and Windows NT, PC Week Labs not only found that NT remains substantially faster but also isolated Linux's shortcomings and gained insight into where future development of the open-source operating system should be headed.

"After a tortuous five days of tests, audited by the best and the brightest from Mindcraft, Microsoft and Red Hat Software Inc., and despite significant tuning improvements made on the Linux side, Windows NT 4.0 still beat Linux using the Apache Web server and Samba in every performance category, although the margin of victory was smaller than in Mindcraft's tests.

"But far more interesting is that, in all the areas in which the Linux community cried foul, its assumptions were wrong. Where kernel problems were found, fixes are already under way."

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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
Observations:

1. The performance differ ...   Ha!!!!!   
Rich
Jun 25, 1999, 15:55:51
 
It looks like Linux got nailed on even t ...   Ouch   
Jim Ross
Jun 25, 1999, 15:57:26
 
lets put our energy behind those mention ...   Great test, now...   
dave
Jun 25, 1999, 16:00:54
 
I wonder how to performance would compar ...   Performance   
Jim Ross
Jun 25, 1999, 16:01:13
 
I'd like to see how the numbers look ...   Kernel Enhancements   
Codifex Maximus
Jun 25, 1999, 16:01:36
 
Linux 2.4 vs W2000 -- the rematch. :-) ...   See ya in six months.   
Bill Rugolsky
Jun 25, 1999, 16:02:48
 
Finally we have a fair test that everyon ...   A thorough and credible test   
Anthony E. Greene
Jun 25, 1999, 16:06:36
 
And this makes the price performance rat ...   You still can't beat the price!   
Stephen Moore
Jun 25, 1999, 16:07:56
 
Interesting
>Upon closer examination of  ...   Is M$ awake!??   
Sjaak Zomer
Jun 25, 1999, 16:08:26
 
Conduct these tests again in one year, a ...   Mindcraft +1 Year   
EngrBohn
Jun 25, 1999, 16:09:37
 
I'd like to see how FreeBSD, Solaris ...   Other OSes ?   
Dirk Kleinhesselink
Jun 25, 1999, 16:12:11
 
Now it is offical, Linux is a little slo ...   Cool   
Tim Dion
Jun 25, 1999, 16:13:24
 
I think most people expected that NT wou ...   I think this was expected   
Stephen John
Jun 25, 1999, 16:14:22
 
Of course, I want to hear more details,  ...   Everybody's a winner   
Roy Stogner
Jun 25, 1999, 16:20:35
 
"I hope that people don't continue t ...   Re: Ouch   
Rick_T
Jun 25, 1999, 16:22:28
 
I guess it is good to be brought down to ...   No Pain - No gain   
Alan
Jun 25, 1999, 16:22:36
 
I think the of benchmakrs between the fl ...   Well NT damn well better be faster.   
Dave
Jun 25, 1999, 16:23:45
 
The only thing that is truly embarrasing ...   The only embarrassing thing..   
Tom
Jun 25, 1999, 16:26:34
 
NT (4 cpu) was factor of 2.26 faster for ...   126 % not 226 %   
Alan W. Irwin
Jun 25, 1999, 16:41:09
 
In our informal tests, Linux whips NT wh ...   Try _LESS_ than 256MB RAM!   
Con Zymaris
Jun 25, 1999, 16:41:42
 
Please note that the low end single proc ...   Real World Tests???   
Stan Clausson
Jun 25, 1999, 16:43:11
 

It would be best for folks to avoid any ...   How non-hackers can help out..   
rwm
Jun 25, 1999, 16:50:27
 
Well since they tracked the problem to t ...   FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD   
Ken Jaeger
Jun 25, 1999, 16:51:07
 
> ...As a direct result of that Shoot-Ou ...   The way it should be   
Mike Bohlmann
Jun 25, 1999, 16:55:12
 
Ok, just in case anyone still thinks the ...   Once again this is BUNK!!!   
Ken
Jun 25, 1999, 17:03:46
 
This is a good thing, and I don't th ...   we now have competition!   
Tim Kelley
Jun 25, 1999, 17:04:53
 
Still, I have never had to re-install Li ...   speed vs. reliability   
CodeZ
Jun 25, 1999, 17:06:56
 
O.K. The linux folks had a few extra wee ...   Fair is Fair   
Noah F. San Tsorbutz
Jun 25, 1999, 17:09:29
 
Okay, the rumors had it that the results ...   Taken the beating, but...   
Case Roole
Jun 25, 1999, 17:11:22
 
interesting thanks ...   Re: Once again this is BUNK!!!   
asdfa
Jun 25, 1999, 17:19:41
 
And linux will show dramatic improvement ...   so 2.4 will fix IP threading   
sad
Jun 25, 1999, 17:24:22
 
Quick math

MS: 1700 t/s on 1cpu
LINUX:  ...   PRICE PERFORMANCE   
marc
Jun 25, 1999, 17:34:54
 
Now sit back and hit those machines with ...   Extend the tests   
Rachel Greenham
Jun 25, 1999, 17:46:09
 
...I do think that one of the most insig ...   Now that it's over, for the moment...   
Martin Maney
Jun 25, 1999, 18:01:40
 
In the most recent German c't magazi ...   Another linux/NT comparison in c't   
Philipp Kaeser
Jun 25, 1999, 18:03:12
 
I seem to remember that the NT machine w ...   Whoopie... but can *you* get SP5?   
Mark
Jun 25, 1999, 18:12:16
 
...the benchmark tests will provide usef ...   fair or not...   
rwm
Jun 25, 1999, 18:14:46
 
Sorry, this was not an SMP-test, it' ...   Re: The only embarrassing thing..   
Alf
Jun 25, 1999, 18:14:56
 
This is without question a victory for W ...   Let's Not Bitch   
Danny Ross Lunsford
Jun 25, 1999, 18:14:58
 
You can find that old "good" Linux test  ...   Re: Try _LESS_ than 256MB RAM!   
Alf
Jun 25, 1999, 18:18:17
 
Did anyone happen to catch the Linux ker ...   Kernel Version?   
Steve
Jun 25, 1999, 18:22:27
 


  Theses a just bench mark, I mean the ...   Just benchmark   
wrick
Jun 25, 1999, 18:28:57
 
The defeat was not in the webserver, but ...   Re: Once again this is BUNK!!!   
DRLunsford
Jun 25, 1999, 18:56:49
 
Read it and my thoughts: better than Min ...   PC Week Results!   
treatment
Jun 25, 1999, 18:57:50
 
Big deal!  So NT is ~40% faster than a u ...   Ok...so now what?   
Juan Casero
Jun 25, 1999, 19:10:21
 
Congrats to MS for whiping us good.  A h ...   The Question not the Answer   
Simon deWeerdt
Jun 25, 1999, 19:17:08
 
I have recieved several emails point out ...   PRICE PERFORMANCE: CALL TO ACTION   
marc fleury
Jun 25, 1999, 19:23:17
 
OK - it seems that for some important se ...   Linux faster than NT on the desktop   
Gary Whitten
Jun 25, 1999, 19:25:43
 
This hasn't been stated often or cle ...   Wait a minute   
Curt Wuollet
Jun 25, 1999, 19:27:16
 
The test results are a very good thing f ...   This is a GOOD thing   
Norman MacLeod
Jun 25, 1999, 19:38:31
 
if NT is so great and better then why is ...   So why does MS use Apache for its #1 most used web   
Keith
Jun 25, 1999, 19:47:10
 
For an interesting comparison of relativ ...   Another type of benchmark   
Doug Bostrom
Jun 25, 1999, 19:48:27
 
Everyone likes speed but without a compl ...   Directory Service sill the key   
Rusty Burke
Jun 25, 1999, 20:26:50
 
Actually, I'm sort of impressed with ...   I'm impressesd   
Bill D.
Jun 25, 1999, 20:30:33
 

When do we get a test which is fair to  ...   Fair ???   
Alex
Jun 25, 1999, 21:14:17
 
The NT box was heavily tweaked for the f ...   Excellent Results!   
Nathan Hand
Jun 25, 1999, 21:26:00
 
which would you take an expensive sports ...   speed   
chris
Jun 25, 1999, 22:16:26
 
The PC Week Lab's comparison of Micr ...   What we should do now   
Ian D. Sliwinski
Jun 26, 1999, 00:44:46
 

which would you take an expensive sport ...   Re: Speed   
Derek
Jun 26, 1999, 01:09:16
 
...To the open-source world would be to  ...   The Best Gift That MS Could Give...   
Joe Kelly
Jun 26, 1999, 01:18:34
 
Subject says all. ...   Are you sure NT4 was not a "special build"?   
Alessandro Coppo
Jun 26, 1999, 01:29:09
 
As I said before, Microsoft's softwa ...   Once and for All this Proves Microsoft Clearly doe   
Mary Chapman
Jun 26, 1999, 01:39:13
 
So will Microsoft stop claiming in court ...   Implications???   
Ian
Jun 26, 1999, 04:04:46
 
I remember reading that Microsoft/Mindcr ...   Did NT Really Beat Linux?   
S.Mitchell
Jun 26, 1999, 07:07:00
 
They should post what tweaking they did  ...   Tweaking done   
Ahsan Naqvi
Jun 26, 1999, 07:50:13
 
I absolutely love it when linux gets bea ...   Thank you sir, and may i have another?   
Joseph
Jun 26, 1999, 09:05:26
 
Why didn't they also use Linux clien ...   Why not use LINUX clients too?   
Mark Kleppin
Jun 26, 1999, 09:44:04
 
Riddle me this batman.......

How come w ...   My benchmark tests   
Freddy Wissing
Jun 26, 1999, 10:40:49
 
I think NT is sux!

Next year I'll d ...   500$ VS free The winner is!   
Blade Runner
Jun 26, 1999, 11:07:35
 
Even with a special edition NT (highly u ...   Re: Are you sure NT4 was not a   
Narbey Derbekyan
Jun 26, 1999, 11:31:13
 
Dear Mary,
In general, UNIX is much fast ...   Re: Mary Chapman   
Carlos Pereira
Jun 26, 1999, 12:03:46
 
Outstanding!  Six months ago the Windows ...   RE: Once and for All this Proves Microsoft Clearly   
Stephen Carville
Jun 26, 1999, 12:53:51
 
I have to agree on the fact that for the ...   sqr(NT)= LINUX   
Adam Trach
Jun 26, 1999, 13:03:20
 
I feel like one of those people in the a ...   I am Surprised!   
Passacaglia
Jun 26, 1999, 13:49:18
 
Actually there is whole raft of informat ...   Information   
Mark Evans
Jun 26, 1999, 15:21:12
 
Really nice comment!!! 
I'm glad it  ...   Re: Carlos Pereira   
Luis
Jun 26, 1999, 15:24:59
 
It's interesting Linux Today nor Sla ...   Interesting   
Fred Mobach
Jun 26, 1999, 15:28:13
 
 In Life more is learned from Failure th ...   Every Failure is a Success   
Sam Taylor
Jun 26, 1999, 15:45:11
 
Mary,

Once I made a small Cobol program ...   faster ???   
Fred Mobach
Jun 26, 1999, 16:01:23
 
Don't let Bill sidetrack anyone here ...   Don't get sucked into M$ game   
DC
Jun 26, 1999, 16:27:55
 
http://www.ix.de/ct/english/99/13/186-1/ ...   c't Linux vs NT Test Results   
Luc
Jun 28, 1999, 17:09:07
 
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