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:BellSouth continues obstinacy on Linux/ADSL.
BellSouth continues obstinacy on Linux/ADSL.
Jun 15, 1999, 08 :43 UTC (36 Talkback[s]) (8956 reads)

(Other stories by Robert Jones)

Robert Jones writes:

I have just heard from someone in BellSouth's legal department concerning the issue of their position on Linux and ADSL. (For those of you who didn't catch the first story, BellSouth will not even come out and install the ADSL line on your copper if you are not running an "approved" operating system -- Windows 95, 98, NT, or MacOS 7.5+).

Their official position is that BellSouth's ISP services are not regulated, and, as such, they have no responsibility to provide internet access to anyone other than those they chose.

While this may or may not be true, they do not even address the issue of the legality of refusing access to a common-carrier service (the ADSL line itself). I have obtained a copy of BellSouth's FCC tariffs on their ADSL service, and have found the following interesting passages:

"For BellSouth ADSL service, the Customer must specify the Customer commitment level, Customer electronic mail address, confirmation of an end-user letter of authorization, end-user's Telephone Exchange service provider, Network Service Provider and in-service telephone number, type of request, BellSouth XAATMS Port, and the circuit identification of the transport facility between the Customer's premises and its Serving Wire Center." [note no mention of OS]

"The responsibility of the Telephone Company shall be limited to the furnishing and maintenance of BellSouth ADSL service between the end-user premises Network Interface Device (NID) and the customer's designated BellSouth XAATMS location, in a manner proper for the furnishing of the service."

"The Telephone Company shall not be responsible for installation, operation, or maintenance of any terminal equipment or communications system provided by a customer or end-user. Where such equipment or system is conencted to the Telephone Compnay facilities the responsibility of the Telephone Company shall be limited to furnishing BellSouth ADSL service in accordance with the terms and conditions set forth in this tariff."

"The customer is responsible for installation and/or testing of customer or end-user premises equipment or facilities to ensure that when connected to BellSouth ADSL service such end-user premises equipment or facilities operate properly."

These seem to me to be a pretty clear-cut statement of the fact that BellSouth's responsibility doesn't even extend to the OS running on the computer as far as the ADSL line is concerned.

Given this fact, and their continued unfortunate position on this matter, I have determined to take the following action: I am filing, this morning, an official complaint with the FCC, the FTC, the South Carolina Attorney General, and my state and federal legislators. I am also going to contact various people from the press who spoke with me previously, as well as new, large-scale media outlets.

I think we would be very much helped at this point by wide-spread media exposure of this issue. However, I do not have the time or energy to initiate all this on my own. To this end, I am asking you to contact whatever media outlets are available in your area which you think are appropriate, and alert them to the situation. Feel free to provide my email address (rjones@chaotika.net) as a contact point. Please be literate and thoughtful when contacting people -- it does us no good if you come off sounding like a half-crazed fanatic.

I am hoping that by working together we can achieve justice in this issue.

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It would be nice to see the actual wordi ...   So publish the actual letter   
Steve Willer
Jun 15, 1999, 09:16:18
 
The bottom line is, Bellsouth will lose  ...   The bottom line   
Frobozz
Jun 15, 1999, 09:30:09
 
Dual boot.  Keep an old copy of Windows  ...   Here's how to do an end-run around them   
Philip Marlowe
Jun 15, 1999, 09:30:36
 
In New Brunswick, we have NB Tel's ( ...   NB Tel indifference   
Brian Hunt
Jun 15, 1999, 09:30:59
 
I'm sure your campaign will be effec ...   effective but neccessary?   
James Ryan
Jun 15, 1999, 09:37:15
 
Yes, contacting the boys in suits is a g ...   Re: effective but neccessary?   
Michael Mancini
Jun 15, 1999, 09:58:51
 
I am very happily supporting an entire h ...   Of liars and Linux   
Jeff Garzik
Jun 15, 1999, 10:06:30
 
because technical superiority isn't  ...   Re: effective but neccessary?   
kevin lyda
Jun 15, 1999, 10:07:12
 
>I'm sure your campaign will be effe ...   Re: effective but neccessary?   
Shaun Rowland
Jun 15, 1999, 10:15:07
 
Phil,
most everyone is aware of this end ...   Re: Here's how to do an end-run around them   
J. Maynard Gelinas
Jun 15, 1999, 10:20:14
 
Not quite an option for a Christian (Of  ...   Lying and getting ADSL...   
Svartalf
Jun 15, 1999, 10:25:47
 
Good for you.  Hold their feet to the fi ...   Good for you!   
AJWM
Jun 15, 1999, 10:26:31
 
---------------------------------
If the ...   Re: effective but neccessary?   
Tori Wildstar
Jun 15, 1999, 10:48:35
 
While I agree with the fact that it is n ...   Simple Solution?   
Stephen John
Jun 15, 1999, 11:07:34
 
It is unfortunate that we need to initia ...   The way to go   
Amir Shamsuddin
Jun 15, 1999, 11:13:49
 
It is unfortunate that we need to initia ...   The way to go   
Amir Shamsuddin
Jun 15, 1999, 11:17:46
 

Robert is right to generate as much att ...   Robert Has It Right   
Matt Benjamin
Jun 15, 1999, 11:35:10
 
recently uswest cut my line for running  ...   USwest--linux/dsl   
hermitx
Jun 15, 1999, 11:36:21
 
While "voting with your wallet" is certa ...   Re: The bottom line   
Roy Garris
Jun 15, 1999, 11:44:34
 
Good job!

BellSouth is being just downr ...   You've got my vote.   
Codifex Maximus
Jun 15, 1999, 11:47:44
 
The phone company does it so why not jus ...   Just Lie!...   
marc schuette
Jun 15, 1999, 12:06:40
 
Svartalf has a valid point and one we sh ...   Re: Lying and getting ADSL...   
Stephen Carville
Jun 15, 1999, 12:49:13
 
I heard that (A)DSL doesn't allow fo ...   How do you do ADSL on LINUX?   
Worlok
Jun 15, 1999, 13:02:05
 
Svartalf has a valid point and one we sh ...   Re: Lying and getting ADSL...   
Stephen Carville
Jun 15, 1999, 13:57:11
 
I've never installed windows, and I& ...   Dual Booting is NOT the easy answer   
Tom Corbin
Jun 15, 1999, 14:26:39
 

Hi. I have run Linux on @Home for about ...   My cable modem carrier's compromise (Bellsouth   
David Martinez
Jun 15, 1999, 15:36:13
 
People in this discussion are mistakenly ...   Bellsouth's real motivation   
Jim Olsen
Jun 15, 1999, 15:41:35
 
I just wanted to say that I ordered ADSL ...   Linux and USWest ADSL.   
Warren Music
Jun 15, 1999, 15:43:32
 

Hi. I have run Linux on @Home for about ...   My cable modem carrier's compromise (Bellsouth   
David Martinez
Jun 15, 1999, 16:04:27
 
Just because someone else does it, doesn ...   Re: Just Lie!...   
Svartalf
Jun 15, 1999, 16:18:34
 
Check with the PUC for your state- they  ...   Re: USwest--linux/dsl   
Svartalf
Jun 15, 1999, 16:30:36
 
Years ago, during the "Dark ages" Apple  ...   Reminds me of an Apple comercial   
Sam Taylor
Jun 15, 1999, 17:16:30
 
HI:^)

In Carolina the local coops will  ...   Hargray will save the day!!   
R.Karrh
Jun 15, 1999, 18:31:35
 
Exactly! I cannot understand initiating  ...   Re: Here's how to do an end-run around them   
Tom Walsh
Jun 15, 1999, 19:50:13
 
Worlok, some ISP's will allow (and p ...   ADSL, Linux, and USWest (to: Worlok)   
Richard Steiner
Jun 16, 1999, 00:30:56
 
It's not about "out-goofing" them.   ...   Re: Re: Here's how to do an end-run around the   
Svartalf
Jun 16, 1999, 12:36:59
 
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