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:What happened to MassLinux?
What happened to MassLinux?
Dec 23, 1999, 08 :05 UTC (52 Talkback[s]) (18217 reads)

(Other stories by Emmett Plant)

By Emmett Plant
Editor, Linux Today

Linux and Open Source software are changing the software industry, but solid tools are only one part of the business equation. The story of MassLinux may act as a testament to the fact that the best hardware and software in the world isn't completely fail-safe in the universe of corporate billing and clerical error.

With over eight hundred sites hosted, MassLinux had made a name for itself in the web hosting business. Using Linux and Apache, MassLinux offered the opportunity to host your website on a dependable server with top-notch administration. While the systems chugged along as promised, they never counted on one thing: a billing problem that would pull the plug on the operation forever.

Today, I had the opportunity to speak with Todd Lauder, who was MassLinux's primary systems administrator and billing guy. Todd is extremely disappointed about the entire situation and would love to continue MassLinux. Unfortunately, despite community letdown and hysteria, MassLinux will most likely be gone forever. Todd seems to be a really nice guy that just happens to be in the middle of a bad situation. With any luck, the interview I conducted today will help ameliorate the effects of the network outage for MassLinux and give their former customers some insight into the situation.


A lot of people are extremely upset with MassLinux, especially people who had their websites hosted there. What happened?

"We had sent in three payments to our Internet service provider, and they claimed they never got them. The checks were cashed. After going through numerous days of trying to figure out what happened, they couldn't figure it out, so we got our lawyer involved. Basically, what has happened is that they were deposited into an account that didn't belong to our Internet service provider, and our lawyer is currently working that out. In the meantine, the problem is that we've gotten such negative feedback, most of our customers have left, and we won't be coming back."

I know a lot of the MassLinux customers have tapped their news sources for information on MassLinux, and Linux Today was no exception. If I were a MassLinux customer, I would want to know how I can get my pages back. What will happen to the pages created by your customers, and is there anything they can do to recover their data?

"We are going to be putting the server up on a cable modem so our customers can download their files. We will be sending out an E-mail letting our customers know how they can go about doing this."

I'm sure I'm not the only one with the $64,000 question: What was the name of the Internet service provider?

"I'd rather not mention who it is, because we're in the middle of that legal situation."

Have you had any lawsuit threats from former customers?

"None that I've heard about."

Were you hosting Domain Name Service for these domains, as well?

"We did Domain Name Service for all of the domains we hosted."

What's going to happen with that?

"There's nothing we can do. When they process the domain move, they're going to need to put in new Domain Name Service."

Do you plan to take legal action against the Internet service provider?

"That's undisclosed at the moment. That's going on between the investors and the lawyers."

Who should customers contact?

"That's hard to say. I guess me, but I really don't really feel comfortable giving out my E-mail address and getting flame mail. I wish I had a hotmail account or something to deal with it."

Maybe you should set one up; it would only take a few seconds, and I know that a lot of your former customers would appreciate a point of contact.

"That's true. Let me do that." [Typing]

How long have you been with MassLinux?

"A year and a half to two years."

Being a visible Linux-based business puts you smack-dab in the middle of a vocal community. Is there anything you'd like to share with fellow Linux users and enthusiasts?

"We really are sorry about the inconvenience. It was not planned. The Internet service provider didn't give us any warning before they shut us off. If anyone needs a system administrator, please give me a call. In reference to the mailbox, if anyone needs to contact MassLinux, they can E-mail me at t_lauder@hotmail.com."

How many domains were you hosting?

"Roughly eight hundred."

It seems as though a lot of your customers are rather angry, and I'm surprised to find you at the head of the line.

"I wish we could continue, but with all the negative feedback, it's just not possible."

How many E-mails have you gotten in regard to this situation?

"A minimal amount, due to the fact that the servers were inaccessible."

Will people get their money back?

"Yearly accounts will be refunded pro-rated to the outage."

What about everybody else?

"Most of them were monthly accounts that were paid up to the time of the outage. If they were paid up further along, we will refund that amount."

The MassLinux team may be able to recoup some of its financial losses in court, but their reputation as a reliable webhosting company is beyond repair. It's a big world and mistakes do happen, but it's not often that the repercussions echo so deeply within the Linux and Open Source communities.


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
I am truely sorry to see this happen...  ...   Sorry to see this happen   
Alron Bailey
Dec 23, 1999, 09:59:43
 
MassLinux will be missed by one and all. ...   Almost like an old friend dying...   
Jayson Larose
Dec 23, 1999, 10:21:35
 
My sympathies to MassLinuxHope the ISP b ...   Poor Bastards   
Russ Spooner
Dec 23, 1999, 10:55:22
 
After all the usual hysterics and flames ...   Nice to have some clarification on this.   
Frobozz
Dec 23, 1999, 12:28:28
 
Pure and simple, if, say, an ISP employe ...   A crime was committed   
Jon Snow
Dec 23, 1999, 12:33:54
 
I don't know whether to believe that ...   Do I believe this?   
Jennifer Lyons
Dec 23, 1999, 12:57:52
 
strange story.  if i am paying taxes to  ...   who was the check made out to?   
ll
Dec 23, 1999, 13:17:32
 
I can only say that this is terrible. Th ...   Billing Error   
Bruce W. Bigby
Dec 23, 1999, 14:21:45
 
Well folks, thats the whole story ...Mas ...   Masslinux   
Todd Lauder
Dec 23, 1999, 14:21:56
 
It doesn't matter who you make the c ...   IRS Clarification   
nobody
Dec 23, 1999, 18:33:35
 
No, that isn't the whole story.  Whe ...   Masslinux   
Anoncow Masslinux Customer
Dec 23, 1999, 18:54:28
 
I feel sorry for these guys. Someone - p ...   This is NOT ok.   
jd
Dec 23, 1999, 19:30:16
 
This whole situation has a very surreal  ...   Very strange   
NoName Joe
Dec 23, 1999, 19:55:42
 
Yes, before we even start, I am Todd&#39 ...   Masslinux   
Peggy Lauder
Dec 23, 1999, 21:39:24
 
Being the head webmaster at Masslinux, I ...   This situation just sucks.   
Ryan French
Dec 23, 1999, 21:47:37
 
Uh, how come the Posts above Todd Lauder ...   Why are the previous posts disappearing.   
E. Spidre
Dec 23, 1999, 22:19:31
 
Since it is quite apparent that the ISP  ...   Class Action Suit   
Kevin
Dec 23, 1999, 22:44:57
 
I've been an internet hosting provid ...   Sorry to hear about this.   
Chad Smith
Dec 23, 1999, 22:47:55
 
MICROSOFT DID IT!Think about everything  ...   It's a conspiracy   
The Mouse
Dec 23, 1999, 23:30:30
 
My mother had something similar (though  ...   Yes, cheques can be misdirected   
Stephen Samuel
Dec 23, 1999, 23:39:04
 
Actually, Mr. Smith, there was a time wh ...   Response to C. Smith   
Digital Wokan
Dec 24, 1999, 00:09:46
 
I've had a similar problem.  I was s ...   Continuing Story   
Vern Everson
Dec 24, 1999, 02:27:43
 
Hum, that's funny, I mistakenly sent ...   Re: IRS Clarification   
Vern
Dec 24, 1999, 02:34:46
 
As much as the story's been spun to  ...   Masslinux vs. Professionals   
Nate
Dec 24, 1999, 05:13:58
 
MassLinux was great when they were Linux ...   I had a domain on MassLinux   
Jerry
Dec 24, 1999, 05:20:41
 
Now that I've moved my domain to ano ...   Tough act to follow   
Ataraxia
Dec 24, 1999, 05:21:33
 
Very sad to hear about this.But I still  ...   Aren't there any hope?   
Mole
Dec 24, 1999, 05:45:37
 
A few folks are making comments about ho ...   Easy to criticize, but...   
Jim
Dec 24, 1999, 06:40:11
 
Hey guys, this is not the end of the wor ...   Stand up and walk!   
bgonzales
Dec 24, 1999, 06:57:45
 
Give the guys a break!  They did their b ...   give em a break/real world   
Kit
Dec 24, 1999, 07:19:10
 
That was my first thought too. But, how  ...   Re: It's a conspiracy   
Energizer
Dec 24, 1999, 07:23:42
 
all of you should get together and buy a ...   level 3   
tom mcnealy
Dec 24, 1999, 08:02:27
 
  How can someone cash a check? You got  ...   Re: Re: It's a conspiracy   
Wild Bill
Dec 24, 1999, 14:01:20
 
Just because something goes wrong doens& ...   Don't give up   
Dave Chamides
Dec 24, 1999, 16:51:45
 
Microsoft is not a Web hosting company.  ...   Re: It's a conspiracy   
Chris Costello
Dec 24, 1999, 17:00:35
 
I'm fairly new to  web hosting other ...   A Good Learning Experience   
Tom Schulte
Dec 26, 1999, 17:03:31
 
This messages go out to Chris and his te ...   Where's Chris   
Chris Byrd
Dec 27, 1999, 04:01:19
 
If Todd & co. were to start up MassLinux ...   I'd go back..   
Greg
Dec 27, 1999, 15:50:56
 
I have researched the web-hosting busine ...   So what   
John
Dec 27, 1999, 16:20:51
 
Try www.vaca.net until Masslinux comes b ...   I'd go back   
John
Dec 27, 1999, 16:23:29
 
Unfortunately, we've only gotten hal ...   Masslinux, OpenAve, Linuxbox   
Denard Springle
Dec 27, 1999, 19:17:21
 
Todd talks about how the "reputation [of ...   Don't underestimate the Linux Community :)   
Byron Purvis
Dec 27, 1999, 21:14:50
 
Never saw a company with such a quality  ...   MassLinux forever   
Pedro Almeida
Dec 27, 1999, 23:21:28
 
Get another ISP and I'll subscribe f ...   MassLinux forever - part 2   
Pedro Almeida
Dec 27, 1999, 23:25:56
 
I hold no ill feelings for todd and his  ...   Understood but communication is key   
Richard Reyes
Dec 28, 1999, 03:28:30
 
Something in the human nature makes us r ...   *** NO SUBJECT ***   
Lance
Dec 30, 1999, 16:06:26
 
When the site went down, I called, to ma ...   Why was the phone disconnected?   
Kat
Dec 31, 1999, 00:15:18
 
When I tried to call Masslinux 2 weeks a ...   and the phone?   
kat
Dec 31, 1999, 00:21:05
 
Hi,I was one of the unfortunate ones to  ...   New Hosting   
lee nukes
Jan 2, 2000, 17:19:48
 
Very interesting, but I already signed u ...   Re: New Hosting   
Richard Brevig
Jan 3, 2000, 17:46:20
 
Hey I need new new hosting company that  ...   Another cheap hosting company   
Leo
Jan 10, 2000, 08:54:09
 
HiI received a modification notice from  ...   BestGuides.com, SiteProtect.com and Masslinux.com&   
skenaka
Jan 28, 2000, 08:10:10
 
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