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:ESR: Open Letter to Sun: Let Java Go
ESR: Open Letter to Sun: Let Java Go
Feb 16, 2004, 15 :00 UTC (37 Talkback[s]) (19135 reads)

(Other stories by Eric S. Raymond)

[ Thanks to Jason Greenwood for this link. ]

"The open-source community has been hearing reports that you have recently said of Sun Microsystem's strategy "The open-source model is our friend". We're glad to hear that, and Sun's support of OpenOffice.org certainly puts some weight behind the claim. But that support is curiously inconsistent, spotty in ways which suggests that Sun is confused in the way it thinks about and executes its open-source strategy.

"That confusion is evident in another of your quotes. Many of us think you are right on when you say that 'Sun [...] is less threatened by a zero-revenue model for software than just about anybody out there.' We agree that the potential for you in using open-source software as a value multiplier for Sun's hardware business is huge. This wouldn't even be a novel move for Sun; your release of the NFS standards in 1984 was possibly the single most successful market-shaping maneuver in your company's history, and we'd love to help you repeat it..."

Complete Story

Related Stories:
ZDNet: Sun CEO: Open Source Is Our Friend(Feb 12, 2004)
eWeek: JDS Could Be A Winner... If Sun Will Let It(Dec 10, 2003)
CNET News: McNealy Dodges Crisis Talk(Dec 05, 2003)


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A very good open letter to Sun CEO. I be ...   Java's last chance to beat .NET   
Stephane
Feb 16, 2004, 15:26:29
 
I think the biggest fear of Sun is that  ...   Sun's biggest fear   
Idioteque
Feb 16, 2004, 15:53:00
 
That's the question.  ...   Friend or foe ?   
Dag Wieers
Feb 16, 2004, 16:17:16
 
A person seeks to be CEO, President, Pri ...   Power   
Baz
Feb 16, 2004, 16:30:42
 
This type of letter does more damage tha ...   Bash Sun today   
Fred
Feb 16, 2004, 16:32:05
 
I like Open Source, but that does not Me ...   The Idealism of a Fool   
Samuel Taylor
Feb 16, 2004, 16:52:33
 
I do not see why this (giving Java to Op ...   Open Source Java   
Paul
Feb 16, 2004, 16:54:23
 
> I think the biggest fear of Sun is tha ...   Re: Sun's biggest fear   
J. J. Ramsey
Feb 16, 2004, 17:14:27
 
There is so easy to use .NET IDE to crea ...   RE : Java vs .NET   
Xmain
Feb 16, 2004, 17:30:02
 
> I do not see why this (giving Java to  ...   Re: Open Source Java   
Terrence W. Zellers
Feb 16, 2004, 18:12:24
 
When java was made public, it appeared t ...   As a developer, I am confused.   
Mario Miyojim
Feb 16, 2004, 18:27:29
 
The difference in price of SUNW and RHAT ...   Share Price vs. Market Cap   
Haba Jaba
Feb 16, 2004, 18:33:55
 
Sure, Microsoft would just love to have  ...   Two words: dual licensing   
Ganesh Prasad
Feb 16, 2004, 20:06:02
 
For simple applications, you're righ ...   Re: As a developer, I am confused.   
Terrence W. Zellers
Feb 16, 2004, 20:20:48
 
I use .Net daily in my job. It's lot ...   .Net is crap. Java rules   
Jacek
Feb 16, 2004, 20:45:10
 
Step 1: Release all Java source code und ...   Re: Two words: dual licensing   
Howard B. Golden
Feb 16, 2004, 21:55:49
 
No matter which way you look at it, nobo ...   If it ain't broke, don't fix it   
senkwe
Feb 16, 2004, 22:32:32
 
Thank youThat is a Good Question, lets S ...   Re: Friend or foe ?   
Samuel Taylor
Feb 16, 2004, 22:33:01
 
> Step 1: Release all Java source code u ...   Re: Two words: dual licensing   
J. J. Ramsey
Feb 16, 2004, 22:33:02
 
> I use .Net daily in my job. It's l ...   Re: .Net is crap. Java rules   
senkwe
Feb 16, 2004, 22:34:30
 
You are wrong.  LAMP is not an enterpris ...   Re: As a developer, I am confused.   
Jay Dolan
Feb 16, 2004, 22:38:42
 
In experimenting with cross platform dev ...   Python!   
GreyGeek
Feb 16, 2004, 23:04:48
 
As a guy who spent years writing java co ...   Java is ok, but .NET is the future   
Nicolas
Feb 17, 2004, 00:01:38
 
>> Especially debugging external DLLs is ...   Re: .Net is crap. Java rules   
Nathan Schultz
Feb 17, 2004, 02:04:40
 
Ye gods, wotta windbag. Hey ESR, first y ...   Send Darl and ESR to same remote island   
Alice
Feb 17, 2004, 03:13:58
 
> ask Red Hat, which had a share price o ...   Share Price   
OJ
Feb 17, 2004, 05:13:02
 
IBM already has: they've invented a  ...   Re: Sun's biggest fear   
Joe Buck
Feb 17, 2004, 05:14:57
 
Agreed; ESR's confusion about share  ...   Re: Share Price vs. Market Cap   
Joe Buck
Feb 17, 2004, 05:24:16
 
In what sense does Sun "own" Java, and w ...   someone please explain   
John Smith
Feb 17, 2004, 09:02:30
 
> There is so easy to use .NET IDE to cr ...   Re: RE : Java vs .NET, Good vs. Nice   
none
Feb 17, 2004, 11:24:59
 
.NET will never never never never never  ...   Re: Java is ok, but .NET is the future   
Rascalson
Feb 17, 2004, 13:03:24
 
When HELL freezes over!Who, in their rig ...   Re: Java is ok, but .NET is the future   
GreyGeek
Feb 17, 2004, 15:38:13
 
> I use .Net daily in my job. It's l ...   Re: .Net is crap. Java rules   
Passacaglia
Feb 17, 2004, 16:27:30
 
As a long time Java developer, I appreci ...   Make JCP an independent organization   
Scott Davis
Feb 17, 2004, 17:31:03
 
> You are wrong.  LAMP is not an enterpr ...   Re: Re: As a developer, I am confused. (PHP)   
sl
Feb 17, 2004, 18:01:47
 
> As a guy who spent years writing java  ...   Re: Java is ok, but .NET is the future   
mike
Feb 18, 2004, 02:53:51
 
> > Step 1: Release all Java source code ...   Re: Re: Two words: dual licensing   
Ganesh Prasad
Feb 19, 2004, 00:56:25
 
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