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Community: SCO Use of Samba Code Under the GPL
Aug 20, 2003, 00 :00 UTC (85 Talkback[s]) (86263 reads)

(Other stories by Jeremy Allison)

[ Thanks to Jeremy Allison - Samba Team for this release. ]

Over the past few months, the SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) Corporation (formerly Caldera International, Inc. a Linux distribution vendor) has been complaining about violations of its Copyright works by the Linux kernel code.

Recently, Darl McBride, the Chief Executive Officer of SCO has been making pejorative statements regarding the license used by the Linux kernel, the GNU GPL. In a keynote speech he recently said :

"At the end of the day, the GPL is not about making software free; it's about destroying value."

In light of this it is the depths of hypocrisy that at the same event SCO also announced the incorporation of the Samba3 release into their latest OpenServer product. Samba is an Open Source/Free Software project that allows Linux and UNIX servers to interoperate with Microsoft Windows clients. The reason for this is clear; Samba3 allows Linux and UNIX servers to replace Microsoft Windows NT Domain Controllers and will add great value to any Operating System which includes it. However, Samba is also developed and distributed under the GNU GPL license, in exactly the same manner as the Linux kernel code that SCO has been criticizing for its lack of care in ownership attribution.

We observe that SCO is both attacking the GPL on the one hand and benefiting from the GPL on the other hand. SCO can't have it both ways. SCO has a clear choice: either pledge not to use any Open Source/Free Software in any of their products, or actively participate in the Open Source/Free Software movement and reap the benefits. For SCO to continue to use Open Source/Free Software while attacking others for using it is the epitome of hypocrisy.

The strength of Open Source/Free Software is that it is available to all without restrictions on fields of endeavor, as the Samba Team believes the ability to freely use, modify and learn from software code is one of the grounding principles of computer science, and a basic freedom for all.

Because of this, we believe that the Samba must remain true to our principles and be freely available to use even in ways we personally disapprove of.

Even when used by rank hypocrites like SCO.

Jeremy Allison,
Marc Kaplan,
Andrew Bartlett,
Christopher R. Hertel,
Jerry Carter,
Jean Francois Micouleau,
Paul Green,
Rafal Szczesniak.

Samba Team.

Related Stories:
Samba-3.0.0 RC1 Available for Download(Aug 17, 2003)
Enterprise IT Planet: Samba 3: Linux File Serving for the Active Directory Generation(Aug 16, 2003)


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  Talkback(s) Name  and Date
The crooks that are running SCO and perp ...   Karma   
Kristopher Magnusson
Aug 20, 2003, 00:21:47
 
Here, here!  ...   Glad to see this   
cc
Aug 20, 2003, 00:23:15
 
Wouldn't it be great to see SCO atte ...   I sure hope this gets some press...   
Jesse
Aug 20, 2003, 00:26:37
 
I hope eWeek picks this up, but it proba ...   Nicely done!   
Eric Laffoon
Aug 20, 2003, 00:30:29
 
This is one of the best statements in su ...   Here! Here!   
Jimmy the Geek
Aug 20, 2003, 00:35:29
 
Thanks for standing behind your the open ...   Excellent   
Jim
Aug 20, 2003, 00:36:54
 
If GPL is about "destroying value," how  ...   SCO should purge all GPL   
BC
Aug 20, 2003, 00:47:09
 
Excellent release from the Samba folks.  ...   Dirty Hands   
bjorn stadil
Aug 20, 2003, 00:48:39
 
I wish that they'd just added a coup ...   I wish...   
Charles Hixson
Aug 20, 2003, 00:48:46
 
http://www.sco.com/products/openserver50 ...   Look at this on SCO website...   
GH
Aug 20, 2003, 00:55:43
 
Because of this, we believe that the Sam ...   Go Samba Team!   
Bojan Smojver
Aug 20, 2003, 00:57:25
 
"At the end of the day, the GPL is not a ...   The definition of 'value'...   
me
Aug 20, 2003, 00:59:23
 
I may well overinterprete the GPL, but d ...   §4 GPL?   
Lars Dölle
Aug 20, 2003, 01:00:35
 
SCO should be prohibited by the Samba de ...   Condemnation not strong enough   
glen sakes
Aug 20, 2003, 01:01:47
 
Samba 3 is will not be included in Open  ...   Excellent response   
Steve Bergman
Aug 20, 2003, 01:18:03
 
I laud the Samba team for their comments ...   Hurrah for the Samba Team!!!!   
Roni M. Oliva
Aug 20, 2003, 01:34:42
 
bravo to the samba team on this statemen ...   bravo to samba team   
rr
Aug 20, 2003, 01:51:26
 
SCO's McBride has made a fool of him ...   Stop the Lies...   
GH
Aug 20, 2003, 02:02:14
 
SCO only wants to be a control figure fo ...   Like I said....   
Glen
Aug 20, 2003, 02:02:45
 
> If GPL is about "destroying value," ho ...   Re: SCO should purge all GPL   
abtm
Aug 20, 2003, 02:05:58
 
I'd sell a kidney to see more headli ...   Better than being indemnificated :-D   
codez
Aug 20, 2003, 02:26:44
 
Classy act from the Samba team. This whe ...   RIAA   
JohnC
Aug 20, 2003, 02:52:21
 
And that is exactly what SCO mob is doin ...   Scumbags has no respect to anybody   
Xunil Ung
Aug 20, 2003, 03:11:28
 
Perhaps this would be worthwhile:------- ...   Good Thought   
drew Roberts
Aug 20, 2003, 03:14:46
 
SCO only has the right to make one backu ...   Single Copy   
AC
Aug 20, 2003, 03:19:12
 
Now let's say SCO is able to prove t ...   this just came to mind   
Daniel W. Shull
Aug 20, 2003, 03:24:27
 
So whose Java implementation is on OpenS ...   Java???? Partners???   
a.c.
Aug 20, 2003, 03:24:28
 
I'm glad that everyone is so pleased ...   Disappointed   
Christopher Curtis
Aug 20, 2003, 03:24:34
 
> It is obvious from SCO's actions t ...   Re: Re: SCO should purge all GPL   
Eric Laffoon
Aug 20, 2003, 03:30:06
 
The Samba team, Linus Torvalds, and the  ...   Trade Marks   
Tim Dion
Aug 20, 2003, 04:50:44
 
> It is obvious from SCO's actions t ...   Re: Re: SCO should purge all GPL   
Don Tidrow
Aug 20, 2003, 06:01:23
 
Doesn't software incorporating GPL&# ...   SCO SAMBA GPL ??   
Ola Engström
Aug 20, 2003, 07:24:21
 
> Wouldn't it be great to see SCO at ...   Re: I sure hope this gets some press...   
Pastry Moose
Aug 20, 2003, 08:46:52
 
The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does not ...   SCO has the right to use Samba   
JFM
Aug 20, 2003, 08:49:45
 
Who were the companies that supported fi ...   fiaSCO Partners Boicot!!   
Tuqui
Aug 20, 2003, 10:06:24
 
Or else IBM and Red Hat will use this ar ...   SCO must dump all GPL software, or else   
xxx
Aug 20, 2003, 10:13:41
 
On a gut-thinking level I tend to agree  ...   Re: Condemnation not strong enough   
amanda
Aug 20, 2003, 12:37:11
 
 Now back to the gut-thinking level...we ...   Re: Re: Condemnation not strong enough   
Peter Bradley
Aug 20, 2003, 13:35:03
 
> Or else IBM and Red Hat will use this  ...   Re: SCO must dump all GPL software, or else   
beerintrousers
Aug 20, 2003, 13:47:58
 
> I mean, after all, do they really stil ...   Re: §4 GPL?   
Tony OBryan
Aug 20, 2003, 13:55:26
 
> The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does n ...   Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
Tony OBryan
Aug 20, 2003, 14:05:56
 
> > The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does ...   Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
JFM
Aug 20, 2003, 14:36:43
 
It's really nice to see that Samba,  ...   ! Stooping to their level   
Wogster
Aug 20, 2003, 14:45:29
 
Doesn't software incorporating GPL&# ...   Re: SCO SAMBA GPL ??   
I R A Darth Aggie
Aug 20, 2003, 14:52:11
 
The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does not ...   Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
I R A Darth Aggie
Aug 20, 2003, 15:04:56
 
> > I mean, after all, do they really st ...   Re: Re: §4 GPL?   
Wogster
Aug 20, 2003, 15:14:44
 
I appreciate your looking up the meaning ...   Re: Re: Condemnation not strong enough   
amanda
Aug 20, 2003, 15:24:50
 
that's what i'd do.cut them off  ...   cut them off......   
yuri vil
Aug 20, 2003, 15:27:12
 
The sentiments conveyed by the Samba tea ...   A very American sentiment...   
WarrenG
Aug 20, 2003, 15:38:57
 
It seems pretty simple. Samba is release ...   No License, No Samba   
Todd Ellner
Aug 20, 2003, 15:43:53
 
Well folks, lets get the government behi ...   Take them to court, lobby your Elected Official   
Bradley J Johnson
Aug 20, 2003, 15:53:48
 
SCO already owns the copyrights to SAMBA ...   You are all confused!   
The HighHat
Aug 20, 2003, 16:17:56
 
Uh, hello?  They CAN'T deny SCO the  ...   They CANT.   
Dan J
Aug 20, 2003, 16:32:39
 
> The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does n ...   Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
JFM
Aug 20, 2003, 16:32:51
 
Great post!  This really shows how tight ...   Re: Karma   
Chad McCullough
Aug 20, 2003, 17:09:40
 
We OS/FS users and practitioners are dee ...   "Destroying Value"   
Oso
Aug 20, 2003, 17:40:23
 
SCO is ridiculous, and SCO's also no ...   Make a statement   
vocaldude
Aug 20, 2003, 17:44:29
 
Actions are more powerful than words.  P ...   Do not support SCO but make it freely available to   
Tim Berger
Aug 20, 2003, 18:11:36
 
OpenServer is horrible.In order to add a ...   Re: Excellent response   
kws
Aug 20, 2003, 18:20:16
 
I cannot help seeing some flaws in the a ...   However...   
Thomas Delrue
Aug 20, 2003, 18:24:44
 
SCO still wants to use GPL'd code, f ...   Make Them Pay!   
ansible
Aug 20, 2003, 18:33:43
 
The quotation that you gave is from Fran ...   Re: A very American sentiment....   
pohl
Aug 20, 2003, 18:36:05
 
"At the end of the day, the GPL is not a ...   Caine Mutiny   
Chris Keelan
Aug 20, 2003, 18:38:17
 
 The quotation that you gave is from Fra ...   Re: Re: A very American sentiment....   
WarrenG
Aug 20, 2003, 19:21:35
 
How about this: have the Samba team revo ...   Revoke SCO's Samba License :-)   
Scott
Aug 20, 2003, 19:38:51
 
Jeremy hit the nail on the head, and in  ...   SCOmbags   
Steeve
Aug 20, 2003, 20:08:04
 
> The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does n ...   Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
Shecky Chang
Aug 20, 2003, 20:46:22
 
> http://www.sco.com/products/openserver ...   Re: Look at this on SCO website...   
Bob
Aug 20, 2003, 21:00:59
 
US soldier (I think) that went something ...   Voltaire   
Vinny
Aug 20, 2003, 22:04:47
 
/cynic onSAMBA is better than SCOs own A ...   Samba compared to SCOs own product???   
Omnillas
Aug 20, 2003, 23:34:14
 
> > > The fact SCO is criticizing GPL do ...   Re: Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
abtm
Aug 20, 2003, 23:54:15
 
>SCO already owns the copyrights to SAMB ...   Re You are all confused   
Glenn Alexander
Aug 21, 2003, 04:52:15
 
Exactly right.  And talking about biting ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
Omnillas
Aug 21, 2003, 05:49:07
 
I would have considered them very Austra ...   American?   
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Aug 21, 2003, 07:20:01
 
. I remember a quote from a US soldier ( ...   Not quite   
Joonas Lyytinen
Aug 21, 2003, 10:11:57
 
Make a specific change in the GPL for SC ...   Make them pay for it !   
GT
Aug 21, 2003, 11:42:56
 
amanda.  I tried to reply privately, but ...   Re: Re: Re: Condemnation not strong enough   
Peter Bradley
Aug 21, 2003, 13:03:57
 
> > Each application released under the  ...   Re: Re: Re: §4 GPL?   
Tony OBryan
Aug 21, 2003, 13:41:12
 
> > The fact SCO is criticizing GPL does ...   Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
JFM
Aug 21, 2003, 15:04:43
 
> > > > The fact SCO is criticizing GPL  ...   Re: Re: Re: Re: SCO has the right to use Samba   
JFM
Aug 21, 2003, 15:09:40
 
> . I remember a quote from a US soldier ...   Re: Not quite   
WarrenG
Aug 21, 2003, 18:54:24
 
Thinking about it, it could be a good bu ...   Re: Nicely done!   
Hal 9000
Aug 21, 2003, 19:54:33
 
I believe the Samba team should file a c ...   Samba team should sue SCO   
Kamran
Aug 22, 2003, 23:01:11
 
Well whatever was there is gone, but it  ...   Re: Look at this on the SCO website   
Khan Md Ashraf
Aug 28, 2003, 15:21:19
 
I applaud the Samba Team for continuing  ...   Long live the Samba Team!   
Chuck Watson
Sep 26, 2003, 18:52:48
 
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